Campaign tag on bug
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Campaign tag on bug
Hi Bernd,
You might remember the topic we had about having a finalizer/'tag on' in a commercial campaign : viewtopic.php?f=9&t=704
Today I discovered that sometimes PFOA still plans the finalizer next to the normal spot, while there was another spot in the slot, so they could have been separated.
I've checked the campaign, which looks ok. Doesn't happen every time, but sometimes.
Thanks,
André
You might remember the topic we had about having a finalizer/'tag on' in a commercial campaign : viewtopic.php?f=9&t=704
Today I discovered that sometimes PFOA still plans the finalizer next to the normal spot, while there was another spot in the slot, so they could have been separated.
I've checked the campaign, which looks ok. Doesn't happen every time, but sometimes.
Thanks,
André
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Re: Campaign tag on bug
Hi Bernd,
Thanks for your reply. However, if I look at my sequence, it looks like this :
- Slot-Openener
- Campaign1 ('Kruidvat') - Track
- Slot-Separator
- Campaign2 ('Vliegtickets') - Track
- Campaign2 ('Vliegtickets') - Finalizer
- Slot-Closer
When looking at your definition of the full sequence of and advert slot you would expect it to be
- Slot-Openener
- Campaign1 ('Vliegtickets') - Track
- Slot-Separator
- Campaign2 ('Kruidvat') - Track
- Campaign1 ('Vliegtickets') - Finalizer
- Slot-Closer
That way the finalizer is separated from the actual campaign track.
I didn't include an Slot-FinalizerSeperator, you're right about that. But that shouldn't have af anything to do with the order, I guess ?
Kind regards,
André
Thanks for your reply. However, if I look at my sequence, it looks like this :
- Slot-Openener
- Campaign1 ('Kruidvat') - Track
- Slot-Separator
- Campaign2 ('Vliegtickets') - Track
- Campaign2 ('Vliegtickets') - Finalizer
- Slot-Closer
When looking at your definition of the full sequence of and advert slot you would expect it to be
- Slot-Openener
- Campaign1 ('Vliegtickets') - Track
- Slot-Separator
- Campaign2 ('Kruidvat') - Track
- Campaign1 ('Vliegtickets') - Finalizer
- Slot-Closer
That way the finalizer is separated from the actual campaign track.
I didn't include an Slot-FinalizerSeperator, you're right about that. But that shouldn't have af anything to do with the order, I guess ?
Kind regards,
André
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Re: Campaign tag on bug
Ah, ok, that explains. In the original topic when we talked about this functionality I described as 'placing the tag on as far away from the original spot as possible'. So, when the feature was implemented, I more/less thought that that was the way it was supposed to work. So, when it sometimes didn't behave that way I mistakenly thought of it as a bug.
I'll just add a slot-finalizerseperator and accept the fact that sometimes the spot and tag on are adjacent to each other !
Thanks,
André
I'll just add a slot-finalizerseperator and accept the fact that sometimes the spot and tag on are adjacent to each other !
Thanks,
André
Re: Campaign tag on bug
That is exactly what I am doing: placing the Finalizer as far away from the original spot as possible.
But as the related original spot (the campaign track) is the last one in the sequence of campaign tracks, there is no more far away place
As said, you might give the campaigns containing a Finalizer a higher priority in order to be played before campaigns not containing any Finalizer.
But as the related original spot (the campaign track) is the last one in the sequence of campaign tracks, there is no more far away place
As said, you might give the campaigns containing a Finalizer a higher priority in order to be played before campaigns not containing any Finalizer.
Bernd - radio42
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Re: Campaign tag on bug
You can look at 'placing the finalizer as far away as possible' in two ways, that's where this misunderstanding comes from I think. I thought that when creating an advert slot which contains an campaign with a finalizer, that spot will but placed in first place. So, that PFOA would take care of positioning them in a preferred order when creating the slot order. But it's done after that. No problem, I'll use the priority in order to do this manually, good suggestion.
Re: Campaign tag on bug
What is the issue? It all looks okay to me?!
The full sequence of an advert slot is like this:
- Slot-Opener
- Campain1-Opener
- Campain1-Track1
- Campain1-Track2
...
- Campain1-Closer
- Slot-Separator
- Campain2-Opener
- Campain2-Track1
...
- Campain2-Closer
- Slot-Separator
...
- CampainN-Closer
- Slot-FinalizerSeparator
- Campain1-Finalizer
- Slot-FinalizerSeparator
- Campain2-Finalizer
...
- CampainN-Finalizer
- Slot-Closer
Your above sequence looks like this:
- Slot-Openener
- Campaign1-Track
- Slot-Separator
- Campaign2-Track
- Campain1-Finalizer
- Slot-Closer
This seems to be absolutely in line with the original definition.
Note, that when no Campaign-Opener/Closer/Separator tracks are defined, they are of course not used.
But you have defined a Campaign-Finalizer track - as such it is played at the end of the sequence right before the Slot-Closer!
So I am not sure what is wrong with your sequence?
The full sequence of an advert slot is like this:
- Slot-Opener
- Campain1-Opener
- Campain1-Track1
- Campain1-Track2
...
- Campain1-Closer
- Slot-Separator
- Campain2-Opener
- Campain2-Track1
...
- Campain2-Closer
- Slot-Separator
...
- CampainN-Closer
- Slot-FinalizerSeparator
- Campain1-Finalizer
- Slot-FinalizerSeparator
- Campain2-Finalizer
...
- CampainN-Finalizer
- Slot-Closer
Your above sequence looks like this:
- Slot-Openener
- Campaign1-Track
- Slot-Separator
- Campaign2-Track
- Campain1-Finalizer
- Slot-Closer
This seems to be absolutely in line with the original definition.
Note, that when no Campaign-Opener/Closer/Separator tracks are defined, they are of course not used.
But you have defined a Campaign-Finalizer track - as such it is played at the end of the sequence right before the Slot-Closer!
So I am not sure what is wrong with your sequence?
Bernd - radio42
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Re: Campaign tag on bug
Where have you defined, that 'Vliegtickets' is Campaign1 and that 'Kruidvat' should be Campaign2 ?!
If both campaigns do have the same 'Priority' it is random at which order they are played!
There is no internal rule existing within PF saying, that a campaign having a finalizer track should be played first!
The 'Priority' property value actually defines the order in which campaigns might be used.
If both campaigns do have the same 'Priority' it is random at which order they are played!
There is no internal rule existing within PF saying, that a campaign having a finalizer track should be played first!
The 'Priority' property value actually defines the order in which campaigns might be used.
Bernd - radio42
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