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Re: Explorer building-up only with manual clicks

Posted: 25 Jun 2020 21:56
by radio42
I made a little Video, which might explain things:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ry5dg9m98dwz0 ... g.mp4?dl=0

I am expanding a Download folder containing arounf 1500 tracks.
Note, that the Explorer always only reads the meta data of the visible range and sorts the tracks according to the data read so far.
You can see, that when scrolling down more and more data is read in the background.
This re-sorting sometimes might look funny, as while loading new meta data, the sorting changes and might bring new rows into its visible range, which leads to loading meta data of those tracks...
This behaviour is by design, as it woldn't make sense to first load ALL meta data of ALL thousands of tracks first before displaying it!

However, the meta data and stats are always correct (I also pressed ALT+2 for some tracks)!
As such, I cannot detect any misbehavior...

Re: Explorer building-up only with manual clicks

Posted: 28 Jun 2020 23:13
by radio42
Any news or examples, videos etc ?

Re: Explorer building-up only with manual clicks

Posted: 06 Jul 2020 11:00
by JWvanGulik
Hi Bernd, is there maybe another way to list the play counter per track? Still the explorer view is unreliable, even after updating to the newest version. The play counter info is not updated in the explorer, only after manually selecting the track and pressing Alt+2 the play counter info is updated in the list.

Re: Explorer building-up only with manual clicks

Posted: 06 Jul 2020 11:07
by JWvanGulik
I did not see your latest posts, because it was on another page :oops:

I looked at your video, and if it would work like that in my system, I would be more that happy. I guess the time it takes to generate the info is dependent on my PC spec. But the check that you show between the list and ALt+2 is not working for the "0" play counter tracks. For the others it works fine. In other words, the "0" played tracks are shown in the list, but when pressing Alt+2 the real number is shown and immediately updated in the list as well.

BRJW

Re: Explorer building-up only with manual clicks

Posted: 06 Jul 2020 11:24
by JWvanGulik
I will send you an e-mail with foto's.

Re: Explorer building-up only with manual clicks

Posted: 09 Jul 2020 11:38
by radio42
A new v4.2.0.8-beta is available for you to test. I hope this now works better for you.
Use the "Check for Beta-Versions..." item to upgrade.

Re: Explorer building-up only with manual clicks

Posted: 09 Jul 2020 15:01
by JWvanGulik
Hi Bernd, it still takes a lot of time to fill the complete list, but the data is now updated automatically and the values look trustworthy. Thanks for your effort.

BJW

Re: Explorer building-up only with manual clicks

Posted: 09 Jul 2020 16:10
by radio42
Oh yes, but this is now totally normal and just dependent on the speed of your IO-Subsystem:
Explanation:
You are in your Find Window showing meta data files and entry statistics and sort by 'Play Counter' ascending.
In order to show this (especially the ascending sorting), the system first needs to read in all TAG meta data and the entry statistics of the visual range of nodes - meaning it has to open each audio file and read-in its meta data.
And then apply the sorting!
During sorting what happens now is, that rows with a play counter above 0 are getting to the end of the list of files in the shown folder.
Meaning the range of visible nodes will automatically change.
Thus new rows (files) are becoming visible. For which again all meta data and statistics would have to be read-in.
And this might in your sorting continue and continue.
In the end almost all, if not all files would have to be opened and meta data being read - this is IO-heavy.
In your case with 3000 files, approx. 3000 file open and reads have to take place... until the sorting is done.

If you switch your sorting to e.g. descending or even disable the sorting at all, it might be much quicker, as in that case only the visible range of tracks are read-in... and the more you scroll down the more data is being fetched and read in.